";s:4:"text";s:18774:"You can unsubscribe at any time. She could have been murdered or killed herself but either way she was almost certainly the one who removed the tags from her clothes. It is most likely this unsolved mystery is a government cover up. She ordered it from room service about 24 hours before her death and yet the meal was found in her body in a way that suggested she had only just eaten it before her death. Exactly! All that checks out. Needing to pick up food at a nearby store, and not having a pram with her, she left Christopher with relatives at the park. Idk. Who knows. But it's also pretty standard for spies from what I understand. I was going to say also that some people with sensory issues cut all tags out. And perhaps the second shot fired was the one heard by the security guard on Saturday? ", [–]tomgabriele 29 points30 points31 points 3 months ago (1 child). According to information seen by RadioTimes.com, Stolen Kids will investigate the disappearance of Christopher Dansby, who was last seen in a New York City playground on 18th May 1989. ... clues, jump down Reddit … No cosmetics or toiletries. Although serving time on death row for several years, he escaped police custody in 1975 and has been on the run ever since. This case doesn’t seem like too much of a mystery, but more a case of appalling detective work and bad hotel management. She’s just needs to be wiped out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isdal_Woman, [–]majiktodo 24 points25 points26 points 3 months ago (2 children). On the 30th December, when Wheeler was last sighted alive, he was seen wandering outside several office buildings looking “confused and disoriented” at 8.30pm. The gun was depressed by her thumb when they found her. Where did Christopher go? That's literally what hotel staff are there for... what do they mean "how did she check in"? Holding the slide or stop/hammer area as demonstrated in the episode for suicide could cause injuries to the hands, similar to the ones seen in that "typical" suicide photo. So it could still be possible ¯_(ツ)_/¯, [–]Mugtown 31 points32 points33 points 3 months ago (3 children). [–]Nothingaddsup 49 points50 points51 points 3 months ago (7 children). Maybe she wanted someone to knock so she could alert them with the gunshot so she’s be found? Whoever wanted her dead wouldn't need to bother trying to cover up the fact that she was a spy, only who she was spying for. Like she probably just bribed them with cash. It’s not unusual for people who have made up their minds to have a plan and do some grand gestures to see themselves off. RadioTimes.com unearthed the intriguing details of what to expect…. Hmmm. Among the anguished voiceovers, the new footage hints at … Oh, I was under the impression it was the same pillow her head was resting on when found that had the alleged practice shot. 1 Season Two 1.1 Episode 29 1.2 Episode 30 1.3 Episode 31 1.4 Episode 32 1.5 Episode 33 1.6 Episode 34 1.7 Episode 35 1.8 Episode 36 1.9 Episode 37 1.10 Episode 38 1.11 Episode 39 1.12 Episode 40 … Idk, it also struck me and I was like wow he was lucky to hear that gunshot right when he was at the door?! [–]ThisIsMeIAmDaisy 23 points24 points25 points 3 months ago (2 children). I said to my SO “I bet she’s gone” when they were digging her up. (if they are telling the truth, which I don't believe they are) The rest of the episode was just flabbergasting. "Room 2816 - resided by an unknown person: Nothing is known about the resident of the room or the room itself. It’s 2am. If that wouldn't be Norway, my mind would have questioned the willingness of detectives to work or qualifications, but based of all known about Norway as a country, how public services work there etc - hard to believe they would just let it go easily. I am now convinced this was a professional hit. With this exclusive deal, you’ll receive 12 bottles of wine for just £63.99, plus delivery. How was there no evidence of a struggle or murder? Cops took aaages to respond. I don't know what was the reason but there were some things that was left out, for example from this post, https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/7blxo2/jennifer_fergate_an_unidentified_elegant_young/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body. Secondly, the serial number of the gun was removed and no fingerprints were found on the weapon. We also know that the sus is someone who knows her or someone that she’s comfortable to be with since there’s no resistance from the girl. But, instead of it being relevant to her, what if it was relevant to the man she was with? Out of curiosity, instead of her being a spy, anyone think she was perhaps an escort that may have witnessed something or spent the night with someone high up and knew too much. They had an automated system that notified them the front desk needed to speak to them. ), police easily leaning into suicide version with all evidence that don't make sense, buries the body and destroying all evidence. I find it extremely hard to believe her hand came to rest on her body like that naturally. While we don’t know if any of the mysteries have been solved yet, Netflix’s reboot has the power of the internet (and the true crime side of Reddit) on its side. It would make sense that she would be able to check into the hotel without a passport if she was actually an agent. Would a hitman risk giving away their presence like that and the possibility of someone barging in? And are the profiles in this database continuously compared to open databases? And they “didn’t check the videos” how would police not Check the videos. Robert Stack 4 Life. Additionally, the pillow might have been used as a silencer so that the shot fired to kill her was not heard. If it was anything other than a suicide, I think this is the most plausible reasoning. [–]kerrtaincall 28 points29 points30 points 3 months ago (1 child). Furthermore, other people stated she was wearing a suit and had luggage, so where did it go? In retrospect this seems strange – human digestion works faster than that. [–]SlowTap 323 points324 points325 points 3 months ago (16 children). Although the death was officially ruled as a suicide, the Detroit Free Press reports that JoAnn’s daughter Michelle disputes this. Like the French family in the “house of terror” from the first season! [–]Cutebandicoot 511 points512 points513 points 3 months ago (151 children). She goes to the hotel and puts up the do not disturb sign when she's ready to die. The hand position with the gun is the weirdest thing for me. She'd been hotel-hopping a lot, and spoke several languages quite well. I also think if it was a professional hit, why did the assailant shoot her after the security guard knocked? There is no way that gun wouldn't have at the very least twisted out of her hand a bit if she shot herself holding it the way they claim. 2) the knock on the door triggered the killer to take action - he realised that if he didn't kill her now then she would raise the flag so he was pushed and took the chance. I find all the issues with another person being in the room that you guys mentioned, but I cannot explain the lack of pants. The C-14 thing to determine the age is friggin fascinating. Literally “there was more left of her than we thought”. Bottom line: it's extremely unlikely that this was an oversight by a front desk clerk. also??? A second batch of rebooted mysteries dropped earlier this week, quickly rising to the number two spot on Netflix’s top ten lists. Listening to the non Americans on the show talk about guns made me laugh. How many bullets were left in the gun? [–]Esterence 11 points12 points13 points 3 months ago (0 children). idk man, if i'm staying in a hotel and i hear a gunshot i'm freaking out. Jaime "James" Zamora posthumously ID'd as perpetrator of a 2001 kidnapping and sexual assault of a 7-year-old girl in Greeley, CO. Calling all internet sleuths: Unsolved Mysteries has returned for six new cases. Also the security guards mentioned an acidic smell when entering the hotel room, and witnesses reported the Isdal Woman smelt like garlic. I can’t even handle how no one will own up It wasn't exactly clear from the episode where the entry and exit wounds were. How did they leave the door double locked? [–]RoastyMcRoasterson 23 points24 points25 points 3 months ago (0 children). even if the staff didn't have a phone on him, could've just knocked on neighboring doors and asked them to phone for help. I was thinking this might be the reason for their lack of cooperation. I think this is actually decent evidence of another person being in the room. Starting to notice UM leaving out a disappointing amount of info in these first two episodes. That was frustrating to hear. She had 22 bullets I believe but none of them in a clip? She was murdered and the killer was still in the room cleaning up when the security guard knocked and announced himself as security. Checking in under the name Jennifer Fergate, her death was officially ruled as a suicide, with the woman discovered holding a Browning 9mm pistol. Did he not have a radio to call for help after hearing the shot (in a very high end hotel, mind you)? At the very least it would require a supervisor to approve the check in! Don't be too surprised. For suicide I would think she may have been sitting with the gun. Check out our guide to the best TV series on Netflix and best movies on Netflix, visit our TV Guide, or find out about upcoming new TV shows 2020. [–]-amare 58 points59 points60 points 3 months ago (4 children). Episode 5: Lady in the Lake. except a few items of clothing, but there was a gun and a briefcase full of shells. If this was a hit, perhaps this was part of the fabricated story to get the 'suicide' theory to work. Lots of things not adding up. She must have had other pants, there’s no way around it. She was wearing panties and a pair of pajama silk shorts, but you can’t go walking around like that. I imagine she would have looked really different with longer hair, with bangs, etc. In a large-scale operation by a top intelligence organization, there are a lot of accomplices and the network is more intricate than that of a mafia. Many of the other points have been made but I thought this was one to reiterate. Families, detectives and journalists hope viewers hold the clues to solving these mysteries. [–]whim17 11 points12 points13 points 3 months ago (0 children). [–]Squirrel_Emergency 11 points12 points13 points 3 months ago (1 child). Also, when they were testing a similar hand gun at the range you could see a considerable amount of recoil with each shot. The handwriting from the hotel check-in card also leans toward her being German, or at least learning how to write while in School in Germany. S2, Ep3 19 Oct. 2020 Something smells so rotten about this. Assuming they would easily be able to find a third or fourth cousin if not closer, [–]WellReadSusan 17 points18 points19 points 3 months ago (17 children). It would’ve been hidden by the victim in the first place because it’s the proper protocol. [–]Moo_Cacao 317 points318 points319 points 3 months ago (0 children), [–]hooch4010 240 points241 points242 points 3 months ago (2 children). [–]Creepy_Ad6054 61 points62 points63 points 3 months ago (72 children), the former intelligence officer said it is doable to make the door looked like it is closed from inside, he did not describe how, but says it's doable in the episode, [–]shinjots 86 points87 points88 points 3 months ago (3 children). [–]Littlemonster93 48 points49 points50 points 3 months ago* (6 children), Why would the security go into a room after hearing a gunshot from inside? Yeah the position of both of her hands is so weird! Maybe the 2nd one after the security knock that went into the pillow was a warning to the knocker to leave? Unsolved Mysteries season two will hopefully air in 2020 (Image: NETFLIX) Unfortunately, an official release date has not yet been confirmed by Netflix for volume two of Unsolved Mysteries. Submissions should outline a mystery and provide a link to a more detailed review of the case such as a Wiki article or news report. [–]Madeupforya 56 points57 points58 points 3 months ago* (5 children), I believe her family know she is dead already as opposed to a family still looking for their missing daughter, and have received financial benefit from the state not to come forward, as well as being told their silence is in the national interest, she died a hero ect ect. Exactly. Usually they have weaponry in their squad cars though. Assuming it was a professional hit, she was targeted for knowing too much about something - that's for sure. What’s the other similar case? For more information about how we hold your personal data, please see our privacy policy. I literally said that out loud to my husband. So yes, it is theoretically possible for a front desk clerk or someone to overlook the proper checkout and pay system and let someone in, but it's extremely rare and almost always results in something going wrong and the person who OKed the deviation from proper procedure gets terminated. [–]CrashxLanding 12 points13 points14 points 3 months ago* (0 children), I thought that maybe as well, but then if you look up the one piece of clothing that has a brand tag in the crime photos that is the brand "Renè Lezar", its based out of Germany and was only exclusive to that country in that era. Unsolved Mysteries is back on Netflix for Volume 2, six new cases ready for intrepid true crime fans to try and solve. But they make a big deal about 25 bullets being found in her brief case. If you're at all familiar with them, chances are you'll know more than what is being presented (and again, the original was the same way). The most dubious aspects surrounding this mystery all involve the hotel staff, especially the concierge who handled her check-in and the security guard who heard the gun shot. Do you know if maybe there is a report that mentions blood spatter on the pillow? I've read Mikita Brottman's book which is about another case that has been on Unsolved Mysteries. The ID thing, if it was a suicide and she wasn't a spy, it could be as simple as an employee fuck up and she got rid of her IDs during her last trip out of the room. 595. pinned by moderators. He was arrested for Theft of Service, and the night manager was terminated. Yet her room key was never shut off. Intriguingly, a seven-year-old boy allegedly witnessed Christopher walking up a nearby street later in the day, accompanied by an unidentified man. why? I guess these guys are trained in all types of situations. Was there ever really a guy? After checking in at a luxury hotel with no ID or credit card, a woman dies … This one was a weird one. there's a lot of interesting information in this thread. He killed her & made it look like a suicide. Who cuts tags from all clothes? This actually makes sense since a lot of high profile types stayed there especially from the Middle East which was a hot spot in 1995 with the Saudi Islamic Insurgency. Maybe knew security protocols in the event of an incident like that? 595. 1) He hid for a few seconds then went to get the head of security & overall they think the door was left for 15 minutes. Season 2is the 2nd season of Unsolved Mysteries. RadioTimes.com has discovered exactly what cases upcoming episodes will explore. [–]_maynard 47 points48 points49 points 3 months ago (3 children). We had a massacre happening in Norway back in 2011, some far right kook went on a killing spree, killing a whole bunch of kids. card. They could easily know the hotel owner or pull some strings to let people like Jennifer to check in undisturbed under a fake alias. [–]mariellleyyy 24 points25 points26 points 3 months ago (1 child). Rendered by PID 14101 on r2-app-03f2f576b9a985105 at 2021-02-14 12:20:54.812239+00:00 running 6289523 country code: NL. He did the right thing by leaving the scene ASAP and get backups call the police, maybe not taking 15 mins to get backups but going in the room alone especially unarmed is not the best option, [–]hannavas_eel 81 points82 points83 points 3 months ago (5 children). use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Although our fearless leader, Robert Stack, has since passed away, around the world there still remains unsolved crimes and missing persons, as well as unexplained history and paranormal phenomena. Tops but only one skirt. He took responsibility for it. On Thursday 8th October, Netflix released a first glimpse of the new episodes. [–]ryanpm40 32 points33 points34 points 3 months ago (0 children), I thought the guy found it suspicious that there was so much body left, as if it wasn't really her, [–]-amare 21 points22 points23 points 3 months ago (0 children), i really felt they were implying that and was confused when she was there lol, [–]Marta1305 858 points859 points860 points 3 months ago (386 children). It's like saying someone must be from City X in the US because they gave 123 Main Street City X as their address. Maybe he was just another man behind her in line going to check in. The show’s second Netflix volume will feature six new episodes. By entering your details, you are agreeing to Radio Times privacy policy. The man checked out on Friday morning. She was either expecting someone to go out with or to have sex with. I’m not saying covert ops are not a possibility in this case, but it seems an easy way of explaining the things that are hard to explain. [–]Escilas 41 points42 points43 points 3 months ago (5 children). How on earth could that have been replicated? As someone pointed out in the other thread that really gets over looked, there are both Coke and Diet Coke bottles in the room. Another curious item is in the registration card, the company info is filled out: Cerdis Belgia(or something like that) and it was typed. [–]SlickFlip 19 points20 points21 points 3 months ago (2 children). It is easily done." A former military or police service weapon that had the serial professionally removed. I wanna go out and piss so bad and I'm scared af. I'm sure rooms were bugged etc. honestly I think the omitted information is by design. It’s so horribly sad and there are plenty of unanswered questions in this specific case but in general it is not completely unbelievable that she planned and followed through with all of this by herself. The journalist went around with a photo/ picture of her only. 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